Sunday, August 10, 2008

Great Exercises in Internet NBA-Related Postings: 8.10.08

4 comments:

wondahbap said...

Yep. Team USA could use Amare. Dwight can fill a highlight reel, but he is very limited. Pau will have an advantage over him when Spain meets USA. D12 is not that much better defensively to outweigh Amare's obvious offensive superiority. Also, isn't ovbious that Boozer doesn't belong on the team? He's the only player who CAN'T dunk when fed a great pass on a fast break (and he's a power forward? Picture Karl Malone not dunking those...). His own college coach is not using him! Hello!

Hey Matt,
Translate your Kobe Blog Day into mandarin, get some advertising money for it, and you might never have to work again.

khandor said...

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When the Lakers traded Vlade Divac for an unproven high school prospect, IMO, that was NOT a stroke of 'good luck'.

Neither was it 'good luck' when the Bulls chose Jordan #3 (overall) ... or, when Red Auerbach selected Larry Bird 1 year in-advance of his final season in college ... or, when the Lakers made the trade they did to secure the pick they eventually used for Earvin 'Magic' Johnson.

It takes considerable 'skill' to become a CHAMPIONSHIP organization and not everyone has THAT in them to the same degree.

Hardwood Paroxysm said...

Khandor, are you really going to sit there and tell me that 12 teams passed on Bryant, and it was just the genius of the Lakers front office that was able to see it? The draft, in and of itself, is a crap shoot. That's why it's so frustrating. It's only in hindsight that something is a genius move or a terrible move.

Second, you're missing one of the central tenants of the argument (amazingly enough), is I said "outside of a top five market." Who did you reference? Boston, LA, and Chicago. If the Memphis Grizzlies had won last year's lottery and picked up Greg Oden, what would we think about them? Or if they'd landed LeBron James? How about Dwyane Wade?

To build a contender, you definitely need brains. Atlanta has all the pieces to build a contender, but they're badly managed. But to say that there's not a heavy element of luck in it is absurd, and if you talked to any of them, any GM will tell you that. Every GM I've spoken with mentioned that. My favorite? An assistant East Coast GM.

"Everyone acts like a championship squad is full of geniuses. But when you get on the other side, you're amazed by how lucky you have to get."

wondahbap said...

HP,

I agree with Khandor that the Lakers saw what most teams missed in Kobe, I agree with you, in that, the Lakers also got lucky in the situation turning out as it did. They had to move Vlade, and the Hornets needed a center. Certain teams DO have to luck out in the draft.
Though everyone is clearing cap space, most teams are really angling for the rest of the FA's, because only 5 teams would ever have a realistic shot at landing a star of LeBron's caliber. Those teams are New York, NJ, Chicago, LA Lakers (who already have Kobe anyway....for now), and Cleveland, and as you pointed out, Cleveland makes it only because they lucked out in the draft to get him in the first place.
I don't think the draft is a crap shoot, though. Maybe for the Clippers. Maybe the only team dumb enough to let everyone dupe them into taking Michael Olowokandi #1 (seriously....he played at Pacific for a reason). It's only a crap shoot for teams who aren't good at evaluating talent properly, especially within the context of THEIR team.
San Antonio used their luck of getting Tim Duncan and maintained it with good coaching, scouting, and evaluation.

 
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